How do (temporary) societies actually arise, bottom-up (co-creation), or top-down (organized by an elite)? In this article, both the book The Dawn of Everything (Graeber and Wengrow, 2021) and the Netflix documentary Trainwreck: Woodstock '99 are presented to answer this queston: both forms of emerging/organizing order (co-creation), and top-down are possible. However, it is argued that in current society systems (that rule and regulate) are mainly viewed and developed top-down and that we lost sight on the possibilities of bottom-up (co-creation) aspects of (regional) forms of society, with all the (psychological) consequences that entails. .